bantu semitic languagedo raccoons eat bones

Place was evidently a regular officina gentium , Unpleasantly similar to Soviet Kaderschmiede. Kitchen et al. Surely thats an incredible boost for anything thats as old or even somewhat older than PIE. Im starting to wonder whether its Eastern Sudanic. Compare already the English examples: e.g. but doesnt actually define mr-fochyn sea-pig anywhere. Which is to say, some examples of pescado in reference to a live fish, a fish in the wild, or this or that species of fish. Now, Proto-Albanian was almost certainly spoken inland in the Balkans, and not along the Adriatic, which at the time of the fall of the Roman Empire seems to have been Romance-speaking. Recently I thought about -er. The Palestinian tumuli, belonging to the culture of semi-nomadic groups during much of the fourth and third millennia B.C., seem to confirm this hypothesis, since a very similar type of sepulture characterizes pre-historic North Africa, especially Algeria, and it is a typical feature of the old Libyco-Berber tradition. The opposite idea, that Semitic originated geographically close to the other AfAs language families (so, in Africa), has been proposed a few times but not been widely accepted. [Modern Greek Dictionary] (comprehensive; includes etymologies) That would hardly give sensible answers given that some data antedate others by four thousand years, and is inevitably going to make Akkadian look particularly conservative and basal.. may testify to the arrival of these new population groups. Meinhofs model was widely supported in the 1940s. My problem is not as much their recomendations as the experience of reading PDFs on their site (and downloading, which requires me to be logged it). After all listik exists alonside sg. It probably means that foxes are not everyday familiar animals to the Kusaasi, though. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/dik%D1%8A. Thus, importantly, not only phonotactic and phonological well-formedness criteria, but also constraints on word-formation processes, appear to be respected in the erroneous productions of agrammatic subjects. And Dimmendaals belief that Songhay is definitely related to Nilotic seems to do no harm at all to his work on Nilotic (though I cant say that it seems to help at all, either.). They mention no ghost population from the wet Sahara, though the modeling can find such ancestry if it exists. Its reconstructable for Proto-Bantu (despite the Swahili), as *camb-, which does look tantalisingly like Proto-OV *am-, but as the Hausa say, Kama da wane ba wane ba Like someone is not someone. Ive no other potential examples for such an initial consonant correspondence so far, anyway. Based on typological differences with the other Cushitic languages, Robert Hetzron proposed that Beja had to be removed from Cushitic, thus forming an independent branch of Afroasiatic. Its not a textbook (unlike the Bloomfield one) but it gives you a real feel for what one of the greatest of all linguists EVAH thought about language. A Dictionary of Tocharian B (with etymologies) I didnt think it had ever not been accepted. Language Miniatures Southern Cushitic also has a voiceless lateral, #-, in the same C slot (Ehret 1987:80). But as usual it looks like we need more ancient DNA from the African side, In Semitic, as in many other places, what are called theories for the location of the Urheimat are often mere plausible fables. I found Starostins lexicostatistical theory for showing substrate influence interesting. Laudator Temporis Acti In line with a strong lexicalist approach to morphological representation,3 this observation has implications for the internal organization of the mental lexicon in terms of morphological families. More specifically, it implies the listing of morphologically related lexical items around a nucleus (Satellite Hypothesis, Lukatela, Gligorijevic, Kostic, & Turvey, 1980) or under a head, possibly the root, as proposed by Jarema and Kehayia (1992). A nativist, Chomskyan-based view will specify these in terms of the formal principles characterizing a generative model of Universal Grammar (UG) with cross-linguistic variation accounted for by differential setting of structural parameters according to the target language. In my own pet area, Oti-Volta, it is notable that there is a sharp drop in language diversity as you go from East to West, which looks very likely to be connected with the rise and expansion of the Mossi-Dagomba states and their very closely related Western Oti-Volta languages over the past six or seven centuries. The idea is undermined by that IE genders are also not too stable and can be used creatively. The point being that even dense scholarship cannot always unpick borrowing uncontroversially Berber -slVm fish has been compared to Latin salmon. Kitchen A. Ehret C. Assefa S. Mulligan C.J. Wait, if Bangime isnt actually related to Dogon, which of them is related to Basque and which isnt? (Science)), Although our analysis provided inconsistent support for Arabic as a lineage of Central Semitic (i.e. However, freshwater carp, sturgeon, and catfish are important food fishes in certain areas, lthough in the US theres a strong prejudice against carp because they destroy the habitat for sport fishes. (a) it does not follow that this means that ignoring the importance of morphology in reconstruction is Just Fine: it means accepting (with a sigh) that it makes any supposed conclusions much less certain, or even makes certainty unachievable. Wortschatz Deutsch Im not misrepresenting Blench at all in this matter: simply describing exactly what he does (in two quite specific instances, moreover.) Phytoplankton by definition makes its own oxygen; but the same holds for carbon dioxide, and the actual factor seems to be that nutrient-rich upwellings from the deep sea are inevitably cold. The idea that greater weight should be attributed to some traits than to others for defining a linguistic area can be illustrated with the borrowed word order patterns in the Ethiopian linguistic area. (eds. I only see where he proposes a proto-Nubian form (**kegi-di, with a variant *kedi-di) and a proto-Nara form (*kd-t). As someone with no training in linguistics other than reading threads here, I can follow his arguments more easily than many others. do assume appropriate dates for the anciently-attested languages (Akkadian=2800 YBP, Biblical Aramaic=1800 YBP, Geez=1700 YBP, ancient Hebrew=2600 YBP and Ugaritic=3400 YBP; Rabin 1975, p. 2705). Moor waaga is glossed as Vulpes pallida sand fox in Nigglis dictionary, but the range of the sand fox seems a bit too far north for Ghana. [Old Church Slavic dictionary] shifted to the more common inflection type -os : -okse-. Despite this, Greenbergs classification remains a starting point for modern work of many languages spoken in Africa, and the Hamitic category (and its extension to Nilo-Hamitic) has no part in this. If they had to choose a single basal node? It is not the same as historical linguistics. fiskeri ( fiskrii SD NS 1: 464 ( 1405 ) . And this part is entirely absent from normal linguistical and sociolinguistical description. Reading Berezkins book on African folklore (in Russian) Ive got a strange vibe that Africa just isnt as old or as culturally distant as it should be. Too high in the classification hierarchy, I mean. Tom Gldemann thinks that Sandawe may be distantly related to Khoe-Kwadi, and Tuu may turn out to be related to Kxa. I am not interested in Meinhofs person. Ossetian / (ksalg/ksag), and (kf) for big fish. In lb, however, *xdm is a nonword and, as a result, is not produced in isolation. However, thats one place where the simpler method called (somewhat unfortunately) parsimony has an advantage over Bayesian inference. i think that the size of fish of a given species varies with the size of the body of water. The Kiowa Apache werent (arent) a mixed group but a band of Apache that joined the Kiowa without abandoning their language. To summarize, patients never produce items that would result in nonwords in their language, that is, they omit inflections only if the language permits. Serious judgment issues. The Amorites and their congeners would appear to have followed as far as Syria before 2500 B.C. Real Academia dictionary (Spanish) The -pende of Moor ygempende hedgehog could, in hindsight, actually be a by-form of peemde arrow, though then the plural ygempla must have been remodelled by analogy with belly. Dictionnaire de lAcadmie francaise There is for example the suffix - -chi in fish names like chamchi tuna, samchi mackerel, galchi hairtail, kamulchi northern snakehead, hwangsaechi swordfish (literally, stork fish), etc., but I dont know if is attested in an earlier, independent existence. SD 5: 699 (1347, gammal afskr.). PIE *VsrV > PGmc *VstrV, 2009: Language phylogenies reveal expansion pulses and pauses in Pacific settlement. leads to a different tree. Is he a Blench acolyte? My next idea was professionalization (a source of jargon). Bei den Khawtna in Nordost-Syrien als Ungeheuer belegt (TAY-1:75). Taking this universal applicability as given, presumably either intergenerational language transmission works much like genetics (plainly false) or the relevant mathematical techniques are not dependent on exactly how this transmission works. And spoke me so, and spoke me thus: Oh, dallyings a sad mistake; Have a look at some of his other papers and see for yourself. African Language Review 6:17-25. But it is easy to see where this can lead to a wrong result. J )#E~&'L)+%_ s5wA?lMEz_Z8)|je-~`d/&tEPyYL VVU\?%C FB9M'DWwsY]S|"+-z^I}y~O$j=J78",>[QT9V2&[F]ZB>!T7M_ y)ir~sg'&On^cNt#'x. Kusaal nb /b/, Dagbani ubi chew, and it would be nice to be able to explain the remainder similarly, but that doesnt seem possible. Thats something science funders seem completely unaware of. Development of gender is immodest by the definition of modesty! Constituent ordering is followed by grammatical marking of verb-argument relations, around the same time or somewhat before inflectional marking of grammatical agreement. The IE and Semitic case is probably not a general rule, perhaps indeed an exception that could be conditioned by a notable unimportance of fish in the PIE and PS agripastoralist lifestyle. While the author is not afraid of long-range hypotheses generally, he had earlier tried to tentatively and distantly connect it to Khoisan, which is one of his areas of greatest expertise; but apparently the Khoisan-like features of Hadza have to be blamed on some sort of contact, and there are very few potential lexical matches among them. Infixes are inserted within a root. Friedrich Mller named the traditional Hamito-Semitic family in 1876 in his Grundriss der Sprachwissenschaft (Outline of Linguistics), and defined it as consisting of a Semitic group plus a Hamitic group containing Egyptian, Berber, and Cushitic; he excluded the Chadic group. In Swadesh-list vocabulary a possible issue is that there are at least proportionally more verbs in there that are prone to full, partial or near-synonymy pull, push, throw, rub, turn, flow than nouns. On a slightly different tack, I wonder to what extent the interpretation of Hittite texts actually was helped by IE comparison. in here, there, where and the Greek for at night), and that has been suggested to be the same as the r-branch middle marker. Certainly, the total available biomass of salt-water fish is much greater. And the Iranian languages must be comparatively recent arrivals in Iran (though at the relevant time and place I would imagine that the pre-IE population in reality spoke Elamite, not Proto-Semitic.). That bad thing is that it is simply less convenient than that page that Ryan criticised. Thanks, looks good. - (1896-1912) So some of shame!) Moreover, Oti-Volta class affixes are suffixed, not prefixed, and they are relatively loose, which expresses itself in the pervasive compounding of nouns (as bare stems) and modifiers. But we have a compound for porcupine, which in modern Russian folk-etymologizes as wildimage. endstream endobj 169 0 obj <>>>/EncryptMetadata false/Filter/Standard/Length 128/O(*b2KuGt+N$i&0i)/P -3100/R 4/StmF/StdCF/StrF/StdCF/U(q&F.,5e` )/V 4>> endobj 170 0 obj <><><>]/ON[181 0 R]/Order[]/RBGroups[]>>/OCGs[181 0 R]>>/OutputIntents[166 0 R]/Pages 161 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 171 0 obj <>/Resources<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/TrimBox[0 0 432 648]/Type/Page>> endobj 172 0 obj <>stream Both the neighbouring Senoufo (Volta-Congo) and Songhay languages have picked up the weirdness, helpfully proving this point. The word cannot be very old, it should be possible to find out when and by whom it was coined. Did he legitimately think that Proto-Potou-Akanic had triple vowels? And yet, I think you miss the thrust of my argument. But the question is how far east. @Roger C. Could you please give some examples of how pescado has largely displaced pez in Western Hemispheric Spanish? They split up Cushitic into five or more independent branches of Afroasiatic, viewing Cushitic as a Sprachbund rather than a language family. (The view that Anatolian split off first is close to becoming generally accepted; what that means exactly for the reconstruction of PIE and whether *mer- can be used to support that view is debated much more.). Therefore the people who put together the standard trees should check their trees and see where they went wrong. I get the impression that the Romans were not keen on navigating in the River Ocean if they could help it. Birgit Hellwigs excellent grammar, quite apart from being a very good description, goes into some detail on the wider linguistic relationships, which are the more interesting because the language is part of a Sprachbund, along with other Chadic and also Volta-Congo languages, in Plateau State in Nigeria. Starostin fils has thought a lot about what lexicostatics can and cant do (he has other papers on this, as Im sure you know. Manessy seems not to have realised that the Atakora is a Sprachbund: we can see this because of Boulba itself, in fact: although its definitely WOV, it shares all but two of the sound changes that Manessy took as diagnostic of Eastern (and one of the other two is shared with the Gurma languages.) The assumption that phonaesthetic processes do not act to make concepts such as body parts phonologically and structurally similar in ways that bypass inherited patterns. Ive found it very useful as source material: I think the problems with it are in fact largely due to the fact that he has (explicitly) taken Manessys subclassification of Oti-Volta as a settled thing, which he didnt oughta of done. Whorf [1945] records such covert categories for English nouns: for example, she referring to boats of a requisite importance or size. Im told that Darfur would be very pretty in the Spring, if there was one. As in the spread of back /r/ across the French-German isogloss bundle. It certainly is false, in principle; Western Oti-Volta illustrates the point in fact, with isoglosses criss-crossing in a way that seems impossible to explain without supposing the spread of features across already-established language boundaries. throw < OE to twist, turn (transitivity??) Hmm. I think what is more interesting is the idea that African modernity may in fact have been shaped in large part by three or maybe at most a handful of such demic events, those that gave rise to the language groups that seem to have swamped the pre-existing linguistic diversity AA, Niger-Congo, and whatever one makes of Nilo-Saharan. Y Geiriadur Mawr misleadingly glosses this math o bisgodyn mawr syn llamu or dr, mr-fochyn a kind of big fish [sic] which leaps out of the water, sea-pig, but doesnt actually define mr-fochyn sea-pig anywhere. Hes indefatigable. I find myself trying to use common sense or etymological definitions of terms like isolating or derivational suffixes. dubina a club (dub an oak). Salmon were caught by the thousands in vast fish traps on rivers, notably the Columbia. Though not as cool as Oti-Volta, obvs.) Well, Irish has contrived to turn into (very guttural languages the pair of them, the Gaelic and the German.). Bantu languages, a group of some 500 languages belonging to the Bantoid subgroup of the Benue-Congo branch of the Niger-Congo language family. Its not at all obvious what any substrate languages would have been, though Grusi and Mande must be the likeliest candidates. Indeed, its not a bad way to go if you can convince yourself at an early stage that the subgroups are conservative. Thats a fault known as Word Not In, or WNI: the use of a word in a definition that does not appear in the dictionary. However, this is not so. And it becomes both more elaborated and varied in structure and use, on the one hand, and more restricted or constrained by target-language specifics, on the other. MacBains Etymological Dictionary of the Gaelic Language (1911 edition) Does OV commonly have nouns which are clearly fossilized deverbals? And anyone who thinks they need to proclaim banalities like these to the satirist Dorothy Parker is in the same situation. The Bantu A et al. And I assume language arose with modern humans if not before, so certainly more than 70 kya. His PIE reconstruction looks rather exotic compared to the usual ones; his basic thesis is that a lot of what the IE languages have in common (like a Nominative Accusative based syntax) developed in parallel developments in the individual branches after the split, with the peculiarities of Anatolian not being due to an early split-off, but more to a peripheral position in a dialect continuum (if I understand him correctly.). I dont have a text before my eyes to analyze. Afroasiatic (Afro-Asiatic), also known as Afrasian or Hamito-Semitic, Semito-Hamitic, or Erythraean is a large language family of about 300 languages that are spoken predominantly in the Middle East, North Africa, the Horn of Africa and parts of the Sahel. And I (amateur, admittedly) am by no means the only person who is actively interested in comparative work who has grave doubts about Greenbergs huge phyla. Thereupon contortions took hold of him. The word is self-referential. AA substrate vs. Paleohispanic (as we now know, the Basque are newcomers) The were fighting and then some idiot invited Celts, and Celts wrote back to Hallstatt that the land is rich and people are weak. Good is a pretty obvious candidate for that. I think I was having in mind choosing a [semantical] class for an object/concept (when this choice is either not obvious enough, or when it goes againts the established usage as in initial stages of transferring of semantical groups that you spoke about, or when it goes agaisnt something else, as in word play), but that is what I was having in mind. Here you go (retyped by hand, so Ive used some abbreviations not in the original), from section 7.7 of Transactions of the Philological Society 100 (2002) p. 110ff,, the original Fuluffyan paper: We attempted to find the internal subgrouping of the WGmc family. Brett, good call. Poletika was hm. In my account of Oti-Volta (due to appear Real Soon Now) I do use lexicostatistics for this, but I also cheat freely: I think this is defensible so long as you clearly explain when you are cheating, why you are cheating, and just what difference the cheating has made to your final classification. If you trust the tree, you can then discover innovations in other parts of language by mapping them on the tree. In the Guinea zone thats because of sleeping sickness. https://dialmformara.tumblr.com/post/177703660363/the-swadesh-100-list-as-emoji. These are the ground-truth dates Rabin uses to calibrate his lexicostatistics. Do the verbs have clear cognates outside the family about as much as nouns do? ), porkupine: The word Bantu means "the people" and is made up of the stem -ntu ( "person" ) and the plural prefix ba -. This seems in line with what might have been my naive expectation that agriculture would have led to population expansion out of the Levant, as it did in Europe during the Neolithic. Also, Im not sure I know the formal definitions, but I have to assume youre talking about biological phylogenetics as derived from genomic studies. Thats a delightful folk etymology, and Im sure youre not the only one to invent it. Quite apart from his general supreme rightness in these slides, he makes the very pertinent point that in this kind of mass-comparison-by-stealth approach, actually identifying cognates correctly is the real difficulty, that (at this level) good scholars can disagree considerably over this, and that you often need to reconsider your own earlier judgments in the light of further research. ), Sinitic split off from the rest of Tibeto-Burman. If they have a dialect, this dialect did not arise as a result of uncontrollable drift. (a link to the pdf with references can be found in DEs post above). Gender systems that are familiar from Indo-European and, Miceli, Mazzucchi, Menn, and Goodglass (1983), further proposes that, in contrast with many Indo-European languages, only inflectional substitution can be resorted to in, Lukatela, Gligorijevic, Kostic, & Turvey, 1980, ASIA, WEST | Archaeology of the Near East: The Levant, International Encyclopedia of the Social & Behavioral Sciences (Second Edition), International Encyclopedia of the Social & Behavioral Sciences, With respect to the relatively greater weight or importance attributed to some traits than to others for defining linguistic areas, the borrowed word-order patterns in the Ethiopian linguistic area provide an instructive example. Regular verbs also all make their gerunds by adding noun class suffixes directly to the verb stem itself. As regards his convincing interpretation of unknown words: there is no independent check on whether his interpretation is correct, and he will in any case have selected his etyma precisely in order to end up with a convincing interpretation. Individual scholars have also called the family Erythraean (Tucker 1966) and Lisramic (Hodge 1972). There were a few decades in the early and again the mid-late 20th century when either no branch at all was supposed to have split off first (just a perfect starburst), or Anatolian was supposed to be closer to western branches like Italic (implying a more symmetric tree). There are also Romance porc-pic, porcospino / porco-espinho / puercoespn, Bolgarian and Sorbian, Irish (torcn) etc.) Until recently mass/collective nouns suffixes were productive (I see this mostly in distribution in modern Russian) but have been suppressed in written langauge by, I think, translated literature (again, from distibution) and in spoken langauge by schooling. 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